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Mummar Ghadaffi, a tyrant's last moments...

Malaysia – at the paranoia crossroads

The MCA president said, “Religious and racial harmony in the country is fragile and people should not take this for granted.” 

Without a doubt it is true.

The Police Di Raja Malaysia had given permit to HIMPUN (Gathering of a Million Moslems) to gather and rally in a stadium against anti-apostasy. This paranoia, a fragile political watershed fanned by political parties is now sweeping the nation. 

This anti-apostasy rally is organized over the claims that there are increasing attempts to convert Moslems to Christianity in Malaysia and that it is considered a threat to national security. What shit air-headed ludicrous 'theme' is this?

Absurd gutter!! Either those who're in this are running scared or shitting in their pants.

The latest: PAS  had unanimously decided NOT to take part in this rally. Something they have decided rightfully and wisely I hope.

And those who wantonly agree the rally to take place are the factions opposed to the new fear that is gripping the mainstream coalition political parties of the country – mainly UMNO and Barisan Nasional ( National Front ).   

What was once a soothing ambiance to racial harmony had now turned to a fragile and tensed atmosphere. They're many who are unclear of what is expected out of this rally whilst others thinking of martyrdom are hell bent of waging war even against their own brethren.

The whole conundrum, if not checked will sure boil over and spill the nation with hatred, racial slurs and bloodbath. When such is so imminent and professing, here we have the Police who had given HIMPUN the go ahead and rally.

But what we've is Bersih 2.0, a civil movement to correct the wrongs of the Electoral Commission; which brought scores of Malaysians under one voice fighting for free and fair election is still BANNED.

Sometimes isn’t it a 'wonder' when you crave for a better world, you're are told to cocoon-up and go live in a dungeon.

Welcome to our demented sanctuary.

++ Here's a tinker : Can non-Moslems too hold a Himpun rally?

This man is right.

Some time ago there were talks about the proselytising of Christians to Islam in our media and created unwarranted problems too many, which was all a storm in a tea cup issue.

But long before all that, there were also lots of other problems; like the issues of Tamil schools' land grab, temple demolitions and the issue of the state of poverty of Tamils (Hindus) in Malaysia which has always been swept under the granite carpet.

DAP's Kulasegaran

Quote "All those friends of mine who went to a Tamil school are now either lorry drivers, labourers or in prison. There are few opportunities for anyone who goes to Tamil school. Generally speaking, these schools produce labourers" Unquote.

The above statement is TRUE and DAP's Kulasegaran should be accoladed and not chastised for bravely voicing out the exact perils and pitfalls of children rotting away in Tamil schools in Malaysia. 

       The headline says : Bayan Baru MP must apologise else
disciplinary action will be taken. 

     Kulasegaran warned. 

In a nut shell, I shall say this  - Tamils schools should be ABOLISHED at all cost and the learning of the Tamil language should be assimilated into the mainstream National type schools in the country.

The learning of the Tamil Language should be made compulsory to all Hindus in Malaysia. It is as simple as that.

Today, the Education Ministry and its dodo-system makes a mockery of this issue and the Tamils here make a huge farce over the Government's neglect into taking care of their socio-education needs, mainly in rural inlands of the country.

Why should the Malaysian Government even consider to look into this issue?

Why did the Tamils come here in the first place - other then to be cheap kulis and labourers?

This is exactly what the government wants of the Tamils. They don't want the nation's economic pie to be further sliced away from them and be given to the Tamils. 

I can't understand how an issue like the learning of a vernacular language should make so much noise and mockery. And still don't get it when there are Hindus who still think learning Tamil can take them to the stars.

Yes, there are those who did go to Tamil vernacular schools and have made it big. But, how many?

The majority of Hindus in Malaysia are crass and obtuse. I don't think any Malaysian Hindu thinks beyond the boundaries of language. I don't think any sane Hindu thinks beyond the betterment of advancement then to learning an age old language brought down by some self-professing old school of thoughts. 

Don't get me wrong. Learning of any language is GOOD, in fact better. But even that needs a dose of logic and practicality.

Why send our school children to learn something which has no purpose, no direction no nothing what so ever?

Why send our children to learn something which will make them, as Kulasegaran said, to become lorry and taxi drivers, rubber tappers, coconut plucker or even grave diggers?

STUPID.

When are the adults, who only think of sending their children to Tamil schools ever going to learn Malaysia is unlike STUPID INDIA.

When are they ever going to realize the more they send their kids to learn caveman language, the more they are sending their children to their early nightmare.

Again I say Malaysian Hindus are STUPID.

I learnt my mother tongue at home (unforced) and went to a national type school and learnt everything else the world could offer me. I've also gone down on my knees to teach half-way children sent to Tamil schools who can't even write their own names even at the age of eleven. I have seen and felt the agony of the state of Tamil kids in Tamil schools.

Pity, believe me is too lame a word to describe these poor innocent souls.

Tamil is best a language spoken not learnt. It is best suited for Indians (India). Not Malaysians. Tamil is well used, spoken, written, and kicked about in India, that too in Southern India not here.

Just ask yourself - how many have you in interviews been asked if you know to speak, read or write Tamil? 

No employer, other then the media (digital or analog) will seek Tamil speaking candidates to work for them which accounts to something like 0.001% of the population. The rest will only be fooling themselves if they ever employ vernacular mastered candidates especially Tamil.

If you're a Hindu reading my vent on the issues of Tamil language being taught to Hindus in Malaysia, and still disagree to my reasoning, then you ought to pack your self and go live amongst those in the estates. Only then you'll know what you're missing by learning Tamil.

I know exactly what would have happened if my late parents had sent my siblings and I to some demented hopeless and utter useless Tamil school. We would be either cleaning up chicken and duck farms near my home or eating up all the dust working in a granite quarry.

As for the issues on the other vernacular languages, I couldn't care less as they should be abolished and be done with.

Tell-tale pictures ...

Inside Ghadaffi's palace....

outside Libya ..man playing guitar while war in progress...hahahahah

Bersihkan Malaysia - CHOGM.

I read somewhere when Prime Minister Najib goes to Australia for the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) this month, he’ll be greeted by yet another rally calling for electoral reforms in Malaysia.

Bersihkan Malaysia of Perth will join a rally organized by the CHOGM Action Network in Perth, Australia.

54 Commonwealth nations will attend the three-day meeting at the Perth Convention Centre on Oct 28 and the rally organizers, CHOGM Action Network (CAN), is seizing the opportunity to draw international attention to Malaysia’s political situation.

And what you know, its 54 years BN had been ruling the country. How timely and science is that.  

CAN is endorsed by a wide range of activist networks, including Bersihkan Malaysia of Perth.

PADAN MUKA

OWC's sex book ...

Apart from the impending recession resting on the horizon; apart from our daily nightmarish issues like the hike of prices of essential goods, fuel, hudud, political parties’ mayhem, our lop-sided media circus - we now have a new issue to harness -  the OWC's (Obedient Wives Club) book on sex.

OWC have recently published a book on sex for Moslems. I can only fathom this book is meant for Moslems and Moslems only.

What kind of a world do we live in when women(presumbly wives) gather and painstakingly come up with a book on how they would like their husbands / spouse / boyfriends or simply men to have sex with them?

This ain't goofy. It's juicy. Read on.

According to this newly published book on Islamic sex, it says “a Moslem man can have sex with all his wives all at the same time.”

The title of the book “Seks Islam, perangi Yahudi untuk kembalikan seks Islam kepada dunia [Islamic sex, fighting Jews to return Islamic sex to the world]”,

How timely! Just what Malaysian men need in times like this and look at the title ...huuuhaaaa....what a title.

Looking at the title, I ask myself...Did our Moslem brethren lose their sex to the world and now need to reclaim it?

I notice the title also claims, even in sex Moslems are threaten by the Jews. I don’t know how that works out and neither know how a man can have sex with 4 wives (presuming) all the same time. Wow!

The book, it seems goes on to say women only give their husbands 10 per cent of what the men desired of their wives’ bodies. I wonder who they give the other 90% to?

A stark extract from the book reads, “Selaku pemimpin roh, kebolehan yang Allah izinkan kepada mereka ialah boleh serentak dengan semua isteri-isteri melakukan hubungan jenis. Manakala kalau isteripun orang roh, lagilah hebat. Ke mana-mana terbang untuk atau sambil melakukan hubungan sulit itu dalam keadaan lebih nikmat dan lebih ringan dibanding dengan perlakuan yang menggunakan fizikal. Untuk itulah Abuya sedang proses isteri-isterinya ke arah roh.”

In English: “As a spiritual leader, Allah has granted him the ability to have simultaneous sex with all his wives. And if the wife is spiritual, the sex is greater. They can fly anywhere for sex, it is more enjoyable and easier compared to physical sex. For that reason, Abuya was processing his wives towards the spiritual.”

More, “Kemuncak cinta kita ialah celah kangkang. Tangan, kaki dan segalanya terdorong kuat untuk menuju ke situ [The peak of our love is the cleft in between. Hands, feet and everything are strongly driven there].”

This book is not banned but Playboy magazines are banned.

Superman the Movie was banned on TV  and so was the cartoon South Park.

Ha  ha ha ha...

Let’s rush and have sex.

3D - wow...

Ensure u have your speakers boosted up loud

and enjoy this little 3D master piece.

all about technology ...

...donations.

the difference ...

How can they do this to us employees....!

This is with regards to the newly tabled Employment act in Parliament.

If you’re are an employee in any organisation, and if you're unsure what exactly is happening in Parliament today in Malaysia with regards to the Employment Act, below is a snippet :-

A 2^nd reading was done to amend and free employers from giving any form of compensation to employees if they are to be retrenched.

They are also allowing a month’s delay in paying out your overtime payments as well.

In lay men’s term it simply means this :

If you are retrenched, under the new Employment Act tabled in parliament, you will NOT be getting any retrenched benefits. If you have overtime claims, your employer can delay them for a month before paying you.

Wither the employees, me included.

The message ..



the flag and the caption says it all..

and in debt stricken Greece...

Hudud...what I see

One thing is sure, the day Hudud laws are implemented anywhere in Malaysia, we in the eyes of the world would propel back to the stone ages. I am defo sure.

No tourist in his sane mind would even think of crossing shores to get here. No tourist would want to have his hands, feet or his "godly appendage" cut off under the eyes of Hudud. 

In my little vested opinion, Malaysia is coming to its crossroads of sorts. A stronger opposition representation in Parliament and the deliberation of the implementation of Hudud. Swell! Just what we need in these trying times.

Hey! You wonder what the future holds for us Malaysians? Or, with regards to Hudud, what future will there be to look for? 

And don't forget too the brutality of the sentence in Hudud e.g. the stoning to death for adultery or zina. How more brutal is this gonna become?

Let me lay down and get you to consider one simple example :

A man is caught for theft. Under the Hudud law, his hands are cut off. Then a few days or even a month later, the authorities catch another thief (Moslem) who confesses he was the one who had actually committed the earlier crime.

The question now is - what does Hudud do to the one who had his hands chopped off for a crime he did not commit?  Are they really going to stitch back the hands and say "Sorry, we made a mistake. Now you got back your hands. We ensure the next time such a folly does not happen."

Try imagining the above scenario for rape. 

Or try this.

A girl is stoned to death for adultery. She is later found to be pregnant. The stoning had killed two souls. The Hudud law says only the girl is to be stoned but the brutal 'process' had killed two. How do the authorities replace the other innocent unborn soul? And, where does it say for adultery, one should be stoned to death?

If at all for zina, one should be stoned, wow many, I mean many Malaysians will need to be stoned as well. Way far too many.  

Looking from any angle, this all seems too scary and grim and utter chilling. Whats more in many scenarios, the rapist goes scot free. I really wish to know what the parents of the girl who died from stoning think of the rapist? Or at this juncture, you should ask - who actually is the crime perpetrator?

For the women folk, are you really contented with this Hudud 'law'?

The law is the law and should be for all irrespective who you're or what you represent. No one should be above the law - not rulers or sultans. But, if Hudud is implemented, would it be subjected to the royalties?

Or is the PAS government going to say, Hudud is only for the non-royalties.

I guess, there are far too many questions on Hudud and none has got the exact answer except if you're in Kelantan.

Then again, it was also said, Hudud is NOT for non-Moslems. Is this statement correct or a ploy? So do they mean to say it's okay to brutalise and victimise Moslems.  I honestly DO NOT concur to this.

Goosh! I do have loads of questions but where can I get the answers. We live in a multi-cultural multi-ethnic society. People are now scared and confused. Who is in his or her sane mind wana speak about Hudud?

Imagine what Anwar would have gone thru' if he was subjected to Hudud?

Why can't Malaysia subscribe to a single common law for all. What is there to gain from championing Hudud? Does Hudud come under the Syariah Courts?

Be beguiled, be afraid...be very afraid.

One thing is sure - when Hudud comes into play, I wana see how many Moslems are going to have their hands, feet and dicks chopped off daily. Interesting ain't it! Everyday, we would be buying papers to know the number of dicks chopped off and / or women stoned to death.

Kelantan would prolly have a caption something like this - "Selamat datang ke Kelantan. Kami HUDUD."

If Hudud is good, then all Moslems would advocate it whole-heartily but that does not seem to be the case. Why?

Hudud...

There is so much talk on Hudud from both mainstream political parties of the country. So much of "wishy-washy" and back-stabbing, who's right; who's wrong arguments.

The electronic and print media are having a roving time publicising out tall Huhud tales of the nation. Do they know the non-Moslems are actually laughing at this 'David verses Goliath" topic.

I was quizzed over daily on this Hudud thing, so I browsed and chanced upon the below written out by one blogger. It was interesting considering the fact this blogger had actually done some good research on Hudud and had put it down in lay man's terms.

I am no Moslem so I ain't gonna judge, but if you're....would be glad if you can see any truth in it; or maybe you can let us know...your point(s) of view.

So much talk about Hudud. Any good Moslem  would know, and should know what the Holy Quran says.

 Anyone who says Hudud does not affect non-Muslims, tell them to shut up and cower in shame for their ignorance !!

There is NO VERSE in the Quran which prescribes stoning in Islam for Apostasy. Again, has ANYONE shown you a single verse in the Quran which prescribes "Death by Stoning?"

In no particular order, I'll list the top 10 reasons why Hudud should be implemented in Malaysia. The following 10 are from the Quran. I’ll leave out COMPLETELY any reference to the Hadiths for now, for there will be far too many arguments about which Hadith is true, untrue, real, false, fake and so on. 

Call the following list, The Quranic ‘Ten Commandments’ if you wish.

1. The Obedient Wive's Club is almost correct. They forgot to tell you that in Surah 4:34 and I quote:"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

In other words, wives must comply with every single demand by their husbands. Be it sex on demand, or any other requests made,  whether it is "better than a prostitute or not.” Similarly, if a husband demands a wife to have plastic surgery to look more like Megan Fox, she SHOULD NOT refuse, else she should be punished by beating and perhaps repeated beatings if necessary. This is obedience. Failure to do so is disobedience, and deserves a beating. For this is precisely written by Allah, and must be followed.

I HOPE THIS IS TRUE else am so sorry for the moslem fairer gender.

2. Who dare say Allah is a sexist? Allah is NOT prejudiced against gender at all !! Read Surah 5:38, and I quote:

"As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. It is the reward of their own deeds, an exemplary punishment from Allah. Allah is Mighty, Wise."

If Allah was a sexist, he would have said cut the hands off a particular gender. Allah did not. Therefore, Allah is NOT a sexist. If you persist to go against the will of Allah, then apply Surah 5:33, and I quote:

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;"

Now you cannot say you do not know. It is however unclear if the person who wages war against Allah has the option to choose between leaving the country versus execution or crucifixion, but regardless, Allah is great.

3. This has to do with orphans. And perhaps more to do with widows, as written in Surah 4:3 and I quote:

"If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice."

I strongly suggest this verse has everything to do with the fact that the second wife either MUST be an orphan or a widow. (The waiting period for a widow is 3 months.) If it is indeed so, then why not? Personally, it means 3 less mother-in-laws to deal with. And that is not necessarily a bad thing.

4. Islam allows you to marry underage girls. Be they your first, second, third or fourth wife. Only the uneducated have not read Surah 65:4, and I quote:

"Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy."

5. Should a declaration of war occur, like how Anwar Ibrahim declared War in Nov of 2009, then he can take any of the women or children as his future wives. It comes from Surah 33:50, and I quote:

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

Ibrahim Ali has declared Jihad recently. He is not living up to his promise. He should be punished severely. Similarly, why hasn't Hishamuddin nor Najib bathed any Keris in Chinese blood yet? Are they really that incompetent? They too should be punished severely !!

6. Those who do not observe the mandatory rest day called the Sabbath shall experience reverse-evolution, and become themselves monkeys, or as KJ puts it, Beruk. It is in Surah 33:4, and I quote:

"And you know well the story of those among you who broke Sabbath. We said to them: "Be apes—despised and hated by all. Thus We made their end a warning to the people of their time and succeeding generation, and an admonition for God-fearing people."

The Sabbath by the way, is NOT on Sunday, but actually on a Friday. (Get your facts straight. And the correct way to pronounce is similar to pronouncing the word Sabah (one of two Colony-States in East Malaysia)

7. The Quran previously did not allow for the adoption of children, as prescribed in Surah 33:4, and I quote:

"God did not make your adopted son as your own sons. To declare them so is your empty claim. God's word is righteous and constitutes true guidance."

However, three verses later, it allows adoption, as plainly states in Surah 33:37, and I quote:

"After a term of married life with her husband, We permitted you to marry her so that it may hence be legitimate and morally blameless for a believer to marry the wife of his adopted son provided that wife has already been divorced. That is God's commandment which must be fulfilled."

…and not only does it allow for adoption, one can now marry his adopted son's ex-wife. I do not make these things up. It is decreed by Allah, and cannot be thus, challenged.

8. Malaysian Courts are unIslamic. They do not follow what is clearly stated in the Quran. Just to prove it, I will make a longer quote this time. Read every bit of Surah 2:82, and I quote:

"O you who believe! when you deal with each other in contracting a debt for a fixed time, then write it down; and let a scribe write it down between you with fairness; and the scribe should not refuse to write as Allah has taught him, so he should write; and let him who owes the debt dictate, and he should be careful of (his duty to) Allah, his Lord, and not diminish anything from it; but if he who owes the debt is unsound in understanding, or weak, or (if) he is not able to dictate himself, let his guardian dictate with fairness; and call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the second of the two may remind the other; and the witnesses should not refuse when they are summoned; and be not averse to writing it (whether it is) small or large, with the time of its falling due; this is more equitable in the sight of Allah and assures greater accuracy in testimony, and the nearest (way) that you may not entertain doubts (afterwards), except when it is ready merchandise which you give and take among yourselves from hand to hand, then there is no blame on you in not writing it down; and have witnesses when you barter with one another, and let no harm be done to the scribe or to the witness; and if you do (it) then surely it will be a transgression in you, and be careful of (your duty) to Allah, Allah teaches you, and Allah knows all things."

You must have the equivalent of 2 women for every male witness in the event of disparity. Similarly, the Quran speaks nothing of CCTV recordings, and as such, it cannot be allowed in court. However, since Allah is great, you can show the CCTV recordings to the appropriate number of men, which is a minimum of 4 or 8 female witnesses; and then, they in turn, can be eye witnesses to the alleged Crime, and thus testify in Court. CCTV's is Allah's great way of allowing humans to travel back in time.

9. Make no bones about it, female children should not complain about how inheritance is divided. If you do complain, you have obviously not read Surah 9:29, and I quote:

"Allah enjoins you concerning your children: The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females; then if they are more than two females, they shall have two-thirds of what the deceased has left, and if there is one, she shall have the half; and as for his parents, each of them shall have the sixth of what he has left if he has a child, but if he has no child and (only) his two parents inherit him, then his mother shall have the third; but if he has brothers, then his mother shall have the sixth after (the payment of) a bequest he may have bequeathed or a debt; your parents and your children, you know not which of them is the nearer to you in usefulness; this is an ordinance from Allah: Surely Allah is Knowing, Wise."

Lawyers, do take note of this when writing wills in future.

10. Those lazy or incompetent Moslems  have obviously not read Surah 9:29, and I quote:

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

… nor have you read Surah 9:5, and I quote:

"When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful."

And just so that people cannot say I am taking things out of context, I shall reproduce Surah 9:1-8, so that all may be enlightened.

9:1 A declaration of immunity from God and His apostle to the idolaters with whom you have made agreements:

9:2 For four months you shall go unmolested in the land. But know that you shall not escape God’s judgement, and that God will humble the unbelievers.

9:3 A proclamation to the people from God and His apostle on the day of the greater pilgrimage:

God and His apostle are under no obligation to the idolaters. If you repent, it shall be well with you; but if you give no heed, know that you shall not be immune from God’s judgement. 

Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers, 

9:4 except to those idolaters who have honoured their treaties with you in every detail and aided none against you. With these keep faith, until their treaties have run their term. God loves the righteous.

9:5 When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful.

9:6 If an idolater seeks asylum with you, give him protection so that he may hear the Word of God, and then convey him to safety. For the idolaters are ignorant men.

9:7 God and His apostle repose no trust in idolaters, save those with whom you have made treaties at the Sacred Mosque. So long as they keep faith with you, keep faith with them. God loves the righteous.

9:8 How can you trust them? If they prevail against you they will respect neither agreements nor ties of kindred. They flatter you with their tongues, but their hearts reject you. Most of them are evil doers.

These needs to be preached in every Mosque, and every Moslem household shall take note. If you are unhappy with it, then perhaps you can consider leaving Islam, and I quote Surah al-Baqarah, 2:256, Allah explicitly states: "Let there be no compulsion in religion."

Additionally, in Surah Yunus, 10:99, and I quote:

"Had your Lord willed, everyone on earth would have believed. Do you then force people to become believers?"

The above verse also contradicts the Rukunegara, because "the unbelievers" also includes Atheists and Agnostics. 

Hence, "Kepercayaan kepada Tuhan" is flawed, and is justified by Surah Yunus 10:99.

Coming back to the Apostacy issue, let me remind everyone here it is NEVER prescribed in the Quran where Apostates are to be stoned. Anyone who practices stoning-to-death is NOT FOLLOWING THE QURAN. And I will end with the last verse of  Surah An-Nisa', 4:137, and I quote:

"those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe again, then disbelieve, and then increase in their disbelief - Allah will never forgive them nor guide them to the path."

Read again... "believe, disbelieve, believe, disbelieve, and increase in their disbelief" refers to the wishy-washy. And that says Allah will NOT forgive them nor guide them to the path. It says NOTHING about fines, re-education classes nor stoning them to death !! JAKIM, JAIS do take note. It says "Allah will NOT guide them to the path". In other words, Allah will LEAVE THEM ALONE !!!

So, in conclusion, Hudud vs non-Hudud has nothing to do with who wins the next elections. If you want to be a Moslem, then one must abide by the Hudud, and the Syariah. If not, then leave Islam. One cannot be wishy-washy about this. After all, there is no such thing as a semi-virgin.

If you have not read the Quran, then perhaps it is time to read it. If Allah did not intend for humans to read and understand it, then he would have written it in an Extra-Terrestrial Language. He did not. It was meant for humans to read it.

I rest my case.

PostScript:

The MACC is in direct violation of Surah 2:82, and I quote:

"let no harm be done to the scribe or to the witness; and if you do (it) then surely it will be a transgression in you, and be careful of (your duty) to Allah, Allah teaches you, and Allah knows all things."

So far, 2 witnesses have died under your care. Syariah Courts, do take note of this.